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PostSubject: tanya gale dan chevalier   Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:38 pm

kk mo tanya

kalau chevalier yg dah di gemini summon trus di equip ma mage power & axe of despair
trus dia kena efek gale musuh
atknya jadi berapa ?
trus kalau chevalier pake efek ngebuang mage power atau axe of despair, ATKnya jadi berapa ?

trus kalau chevalier musuh yang dah di gemini summon diambil ma mark of the rose, trus efek chevalier dipake ngebuang mark of the rose yg diequip tadi, bisa gak buat ngancurin chevalier yg tadi dicolong ?

pertanyaan terakhir, chevalier dihidupin ama symbol of heritage trus diequip lagi ma supervise. abis itu dia pake efeknya ngebuang symbol of heritage.
chainnya gimana tuh kk ?
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PostSubject: Re: tanya gale dan chevalier   Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:51 pm

tolong post dgn format yg saya post...
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PostSubject: Re: tanya gale dan chevalier   Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:21 pm

efeknya ini kk

evocator chevalier (M)
effect :
This card is treated as a Normal Monster while face-up on the field or in the Graveyard. While this card is face-up on the field, you can Normal Summon it to have it be treated as an Effect Monster with this effect:
● You can send 1 face-up Equip Card you control to the Graveyard to destroy 1 card your opponent controls.

BW Gale (M)
effect:
If you control a "Blackwing" monster other than "Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind", you can Special Summon this card from your hand. Once per turn, you can halve the ATK and DEF of 1 face-up monster your opponent controls.

axe of despair (S)
effect:
The equipped monster gains 1000 ATK. When this card is sent from the field to the Graveyard, you can Tribute 1 monster you control to return this card to the top of your Deck.

supervise (S)
effect:
Equip only to a Gemini Monster. It is treated as an Effect Monster, and gains its effect(s). When this face-up card on the field is sent to the Graveyard, select and Special Summon 1 Normal Monster from your Graveyard.

mage power (S)
effect:
The equipped monster gains 500 ATK and DEF for each Spell and Trap Card you control.

mark of the rose (S)
effect:
Remove from play 1 Plant-Type monster from your Graveyard and equip this card to a monster your opponent controls. Gain control of the equipped monster. During your End Phase, give control of the equipped monster to your opponent. During your Standby Phase, gain control of the equipped monster.

symbol of heritage (S)
effect:
You can only activate this card while there are 3 monster cards with the same name in your Graveyard. Select 1 of those monsters. Special Summon it to your side of the field, and equip it with this card. When this card is destroyed, destroy the equipped monster.
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PostSubject: Re: tanya gale dan chevalier   Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:40 am

jadi begini...
Gale itu pokokna setengahin atk lwn klo dah pk equip segala ttp setengahin aj

lebi jelas na kek gini

The effect of “Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind” targets 1 monster your opponent controls.

The ATK of the targeted monster is halved for as long as that monster remains face-up on the field.

If you target a monster with “Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind” that was already targeted before, its ATK will be one-quarter. Then one-eighth if you target it again after that.

The ATK of the targeted monster can be increase/decreased from its new level.

If a monster with 1000 ATK gains 700 ATK from “Rush Recklessly” until the end of the turn, and is then targeted by “Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind”, its ATK is now 850, and remains 850 even after “Rush Recklessly” expires.

If a monster with 1000 ATK gains 1000 ATK from “Axe of Despair” and is then targeted by “Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind”, its ATK is now 1000, and remains 1000 if “Axe of Despair” is destroyed.

If a monster equipped with “United We Stand” has its ATK halved, the new ATK remains and is unchanged by “United We Stand”. (So if the number of monsters on the field changes, the ATK remains the same.)
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PostSubject: Re: tanya gale dan chevalier   Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:06 am

oww, berart gak berubah-ubah lagi yak

kalau pertanyaan 2 dan 3 nya gimana kk ?
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PostSubject: Re: tanya gale dan chevalier   Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:09 am

pertanyaan 2 g boleh sbb
"to destroy 1 card your opponent controls"

yg ketiga jd evocator hancur dan supervise jalan efek na...
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PostSubject: Re: tanya gale dan chevalier   Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:32 pm

hm kakak, saya punya pertanyaan related sama evocator, jadi nga usah bikin thread baru yah. bisa nga kalo kita pake combo evocator + archfiend of gilfer buat nyapu bersih field lawan

archfiend of gilfer (m)

When this card is sent to the Graveyard, you can activate its effect. You can then equip it to a monster on the field, and this card will be treated as an Equip Spell Card that decreases the ATK of the equipped monster by 500 points.

jadi kombonya evocator kirim gilfer ke grave, trus gilfer balik lagi, trus dikirim lagi sama evo trus2an. bisa nga?
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PostSubject: Re: tanya gale dan chevalier   Thu Apr 01, 2010 5:16 pm

berarti tuh archfiend di equipin sendiri gitu?

kayaknya sih bisa, tapi 1kali doang..


archfiend sent to grave sebagai monster baru bisa jadi equip. .

kalau udah jadi equip ya udah mati tuh monster. .

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PostSubject: Re: tanya gale dan chevalier   Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:13 pm

bisa karena archfiend na jadi equip...
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PostSubject: Re: tanya gale dan chevalier   Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:48 pm

@starship:
Nggak bisa, karena miss timing. Hal terakhir yang terjadi adalah destroy kartu lawan, bukan ngesend Archfiend of Gilfer.
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PostSubject: Re: tanya gale dan chevalier   Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:56 pm

dwapprox wrote:
@starship:
Nggak bisa, karena miss timing. Hal terakhir yang terjadi adalah destroy kartu lawan, bukan ngesend Archfiend of Gilfer.

kalau Arfchfiendnya dari Monster FIeld ke grave terus di jadii Equip lalu di Hancurin pakai efeknya Evo bisa,

tapi setelah itu ngak bisa bangkit lagi. berhubung hancur sebagai Equip ngak monster.

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PostSubject: Re: tanya gale dan chevalier   Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:18 am

Archfiend of Gilfer wrote:
When this card is sent to the Graveyard, you can activate its effect. You can then equip it to a monster on the field, and this card will be treated as an Equip Spell Card that decreases the ATK of the equipped monster by 500 points.

Udah jelas ketulis kalo harus kesend ke graveyard, gak peduli statusnya sebagai monster atau equip...

Ruling - Evocator Chevalier wrote:
Sending an Equip Card you control to the Graveyard is a cost to activate the effect.
Karena ngesend AoG sebagai cost, dan destroy adalah hal terakhir, jadinya gak bisa pasang lagi karena miss timing.

Yah, line2 di atas cuman penegasan aja kok..

@Little_Ciel:
Yup, gak bisa destroynya udah bener, cuman alasannya yang gak tepat aja Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: tanya gale dan chevalier   Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:39 am

AoG na cmn 1x aj,gw bilang bisa,bisa na cmn 1 x doank...
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PostSubject: Re: tanya gale dan chevalier   Fri Apr 02, 2010 3:31 pm

neh biar lebih jelas
gilfer ga bisa idup lagi,bukan karena sebagai equip,tapi karena saat resolve di field,hal terakhir yang terjadi adalah hancurnya 1 kartu di field,yang menyebabkan peristiwa "missing the timing"
semisal gilfer di equip ke PTD?
PTD nya immortal :p
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PostSubject: Re: tanya gale dan chevalier   Sun Apr 04, 2010 12:55 am

buat yang gak ngerti miss timing buka aja nih :

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Missed_the_Timing


trus kalo masih gak ngerti/pengen lebih ngerti. praktekkin aja ke geartown, soalnya geartown kartu yang paling banyak n' gampang dibuat miss timing.
baca aja rulingnya geartown biar ngerti knapa saya bilang bgini
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PostSubject: Re: tanya gale dan chevalier   Sun Apr 04, 2010 12:59 am

kalau pas di jadiin field terus di MST baru miss timing kalo geartown,

tapi kalau di tutup ya ngak

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